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Wednesday, July 1, 2015

God is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.

Here, unequivocally, the author of the Book of Hebrews states that Jesus Christ was always an immortal physical being living on this earth and being crucified. This of course is a preposterous conclusion. He has since gone on to His glory, and is now in heaven having completed His earthly mission.  When a scripture states that something or someone is unchanging, we must take into account that the something or someone does in fact go through stages and events changing as circumstances permit.

In the pre-earth life, Jesus was Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament – a spirit being. Before the earth came into existence Jesus was the Son of God preparing the earth for habitation and His eventual sacrifice for mankind. Is Jesus still preparing the earth for mankind to inhabit so that He can someday offer Himself for sacrifice? No, that has been accomplished. Therefore, what Jesus is now doing is something else. Thus, what Jesus does and what Jesus is are two different topics. Has Jesus always been God? Yes. How is that so?

At some point in the annals of the history of the universe, before Jesus became the spirit Son of God, Jesus was an intelligence, the same as God and all of us were [and are].

For intelligence cleaveth unto intelligence; wisdom receiveth wisdom; truth embraceth truth; virtue loveth virtue; light cleaveth unto light; mercy hath compassion on mercy and claimeth her own; justice continueth its course and claimeth its own; judgment goeth before the face of him who sitteth upon the throne and governeth and executeth all things. 41 He comprehendeth all things, and all things are before him, and all things are round about him; and he is above all things, and in all things, and is through all things, and is round about all things; and all things are by him, and of him, even God, forever and ever. (D&C 88:40, 41, bold added)

Who is this God in verse 41? Is it God the Father?

We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple. It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God, and to know that we may converse with Him as man converses with another, and that He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did; and I will show it from the Bible. (Joseph Smith, DHC** VI:305, bold added)   *Doctrinal History of the Church

This doctrine taught by Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Lorenzo Snow and many other LDS Leaders clearly states that God the Father was not always doing the acts of a God of the Universe.

Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. 30 All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself, as all intelligence also; otherwise there is no existence. (D&C 93:29, 30 bold added)

Not only was man in the beginning with God, but God was in the beginning with man. The point here is that both God and we were “intelligences.” Neither God nor we, as intelligences, were ever created! We have always existed as intelligences. And as intelligences, we clove “unto intelligence.”
We clove unto the intelligence known as God which comprehendeth all things, is round about all things, and in all things. Who is this uncreated intelligence that can be round about, in and through all things? The Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit is known to us as God. It was never created, and never changes, and remains the same from eternity to eternity. 

For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity. (Moroni 8:18) 

 … for the Spirit is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. … (2 Nephi 2:4) 

Both God the Father and Jesus Christ were, are and ever will be sinless. Thus, their status as Gods was never compromised. As self-existing intelligences, each of us, and God and Jesus, was sinless. Only by our organization into spirits and then mortality did we fail and transgress. The Father and the Son never failed. By nature as intelligences, we cleaved unto the Holy Spirit. We were one with the Holy Spirit. As intelligences, we were, as Jesus taught, “gods.”

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. (Psalms 82:6, 7, bold added)

I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. (John 10:30-37) 

This is a hard teaching of Jesus Christ for modern day Protestantism, just like the Jews at the time of Christ, indeed nearly all who profess a belief in Christ, including Mormons, get a lot of heartburn over this simple teaching by Jesus. He clearly taught, both as Jehovah and then later as Jesus the doctrine that mortal humans ARE gods, IF they have “the word of God” come into their hearts and live accordingly. Nevertheless, such are mortal gods, and shall die “like one of the princes.”

Someday, in the future as full-fledged gods with our own spirit children and our own worlds, etc., we can say we have been the same, yesterday, and forever, if we are referring to our core being as eternal intelligences. These bodies of spirit and mortal matter are “organizations” that we are in the process of exalting and making a permanent addition* to our individual organizations or souls. In essence, we are intelligences, always have been and always will be. Consider the scripture which refers to us as intelligences rather than spirits or as mortals:
 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones;
23  And God saw these souls that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, and he said: These I will make my rulers; for he stood among those that were spirits, and he saw that they were good; and he said unto me: Abraham, thou art one of them; thou wast chosen before thou wast born. (Abraham 3:22, 23, bold added)

     * And they who keep their first estate shall be added upon; and they who keep not their
      first estate shall not have glory in the same kingdom with those who keep their first estate;
      and they who keep their second estate shall have glory added upon their heads for ever
      and ever. (Abraham 3:26, bold added)

Nevertheless, our spirit children will acknowledge the same God Elohim** as their Father in heaven as we do.
**Elohim is the name attributed to God the Father of the universe.

Elohim is the same yesterday, today and forever. What He does changes from day-to-day, from activity to activity, but what He is as a God does not change. In the past, He clove as a God intelligence one with the Holy Spirit. Later, as an organized spirit God, He clove as one with the Holy Spirit. Still later, as a sinless mortal, He clove as one with the Holy Spirit.

Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things so ever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. (John 5:19, bold added)

And still later, He clove as a resurrected immortal God, the Father and Supreme Controller of the Universe, as one with the Holy Spirit. His core Being has never changed. But his actions, and so on - His doings do change from one activity to the next.

It is through the act of They cleaving unto the glorious Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit cleaving unto Them that God the Father and the Son are one. Likewise, it is how we become one with Them.

And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. (John 17:22, 23, bold added)

That “glory” which Jesus gave unto us is the gift of the Holy Ghost: the Holy Spirit. The more we cleave unto that Holy Spirit, the more we become one with God and His Son.

… God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing (Mormon 9:9)

Again, the statement “no variableness neither shadow of changing” refers to His Being, who He is, a sinless God-intelligence, and not what He does. He has always operated in accordance with the laws of the universe – operated as one with the Holy Spirit. Thus, He is the same, yesterday, and forever.

ddd
Updates: 06Jul15, a few minor fixes.

16Jul15: My earlier thoughts stating we can never say we are the same, yesterday and forever was somewhat inaccurate. As intelligences per se, we can always say that, though our organizations might not: "...the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak" (Matt. 26:41). The article is updated to reflect this idea, beginning with the paragraph above that begins with "Someday."

Wednesday, June 3, 2015

The Test for a Latter-day Prophet


A Protestant minister I know through written communications recently forwarded me an email wherein he attacked the Prophet Joseph Smith saying he was a false prophet because of certain Biblical scriptures which he claims are to be used to test latter-days prophets.

After checking the web, I found the following information on this so-called test.

A number of Protestants preach that because prayer is fallible, one should not rely on personal prayer to determine whether a prophet is called of God or not.
The Bible never says to test a prophet by prayer, but by his message. Deuteronomy 13 warns that a prophet must teach correctly about God. Chapter 18 tells us the prophet's prophecies must come to pass. Paul tells us in Galatians 1:8-9 that even angels can appear with a wrong message. We are to compare the message with the teachings of the apostles. (How Do we Test a Prophet?) (bold added)

Millions of members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints pray to receive a "testimony" of the truthfulness of the Church and believe that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God. They base this knowledge largely on a Book of Mormon passage, Moroni 10:4, that if you ask sincerely ask God "if these things are not true he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost."
Mormons reason that the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon, the LDS Church, and Joseph Smith can be "tested" according to Moroni 10:4. In fact, verse five indicates by this test, "ye may know the truth of all things." The problem with a subjective test of this sort is that many religions have followers that are sincere and pray. The Moslems pray five times a day facing Mecca and they have a sincere testimony that Mohammed was a true prophet and the Koran the word of God. Likewise, Jehovah's Witnesses believe in prayer and their "anointed" followers are convinced that they have the testimony of God's Spirit that their organization is true.
The Bible makes it clear that there are other spirits besides the Holy Spirit who can be very “seducing” and even teach “doctrines” (1 Timothy 4:1). This is why 1 John 4:1 warns: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try [Greek dokimazo “test] the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” Testing the spirits is necessary because of “many false prophets” in the world. What is the test for a prophets? … The test for a prophet is found in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. This scripture teaches that a prophet must be tested by checking his prophecies. Also, Jesus said, “Beware of false prophets which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” This is not telling us to examine a prophet’s good works. Many false prophets have led moral lives. The fruit of a fig tree is its figs. The fruit of a prophet is his prophecies. One false prophecy (even if some true prophecies are given) and that person is a false prophet. It does not matter how sincere he or his followers are. It does not matter how often his followers pray or what feelings they seem to receive in answer to their prayers. He is a false prophet. (Joseph Smith and the BiblicalTest of a Prophet) (bold added)

These anti-Mormons insist the Bible does not, according to their reasoning, advocate use of personal prayer to get an answer from God, claiming instead that the converts in the Bible resorted to testing by reason and logic, by comparing the prophetic teachings of the Apostles and the disciples with the Old Testament, since there was no New Testament Bible at that time. Yet, in a letter to me, a Protestant minister said:

 Third, there is a higher standard for Christian prophets and apostles under the new covenant than there was for Old Testament prophets. Men such as Abraham, Moses, and David did not have the benefit of being able to look back at the teaching and examples found throughout the Old Testament.” (Communication from an online Protestant Evangelist to Dennis Doddridge, bold added)

 This very disparity that some Protestants admit between the Old and the New Testament prophets, that the Old Testament prophets did not have the benefit to “look back,” is flawed. First, it implies that New Testament prophets looked back to earlier teachings as their source for inspiration rather than through revelation. And second, the Old Testament prophets did not even have that, so they get away with having a lower “standard.” Third, according to these Protestant apologists, the converts in Paul’s days were thus left to compare the new enlightened teachings they were hearing from the Disciples of Christ to the lower standard Old Testament scriptures without the benefit of personal prayer. That must been hard!

Presumptuous Prophets

But let us examine this scripture in Deuteronomy:
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. (Deut. 18:20-22, bold added)
Hmmm. Note this passage does not anywhere say the prophet is false, but only that his prophecy was spoken presumptuously. Dictionaries define “presumptuous” to mean:
Too confident especially in a way that is rude: done or made without permission, right, or good reason; taking liberties; (of a person or their behavior) failing to observe the limits of what is permitted or appropriate. (Merriam and Google Dictionaries, bold added).

“Presumptuously,” in the above quoted verse comes from the Hebrew word “zadon” meaning “pride, presumptuous.” (Young’s Analytical Concordance to the Bible, Robert Young, LL.D.). It does not mean “false.” Hebrew words denoting “false” are kazab, shav, and sheger.

There is a big difference between a prophet who spoke in error being declared a false prophet, and a prophecy that is an error. We can reject the error, but still respect the prophet, though we will not be “afraid” of him.

7 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.
9 And Moses took the rod from before the LORD, as he commanded him.
10 And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?
11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them. (Numbers 20:7-12, bold, italics added)

Moses failed to give God credit for bringing forth the water, saying that he and Aaron did it. This was presumptuous of Moses to do that. The Lord then punished him saying “therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land.” Does this single presumptuous act by Moses mean he is a false prophet? Shall we therefore take all of his laws and prophecies and dump them into the trash? Heaven forbid.

32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36  What?  came the word of God out from you?  or came it unto you only?
37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. (1 Cor. 14:32-37, bold added).

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. (1 Tim. 2:11,12, bold added)

Dear reader, I used to be a Protestant (Assembly of God and Pentecostal persuasions). Our preacher back then was a wonderful, vivacious young woman named Mabel. She could work up the congregation until they were jumping out of their seats, running up and down the aisles, and “speaking in tongues.” But, she was a woman, and not a man. Not only did she not keep silence in the church, she was the loudest one! Quite frankly I do not know of a single Protestant sect that observes the above commandment of the Lord as Paul preached. And yet none of them feels they are accursed.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Gal.1:8, 9).

What then? Shall we say that Paul spoke presumptuously? Is he therefore a false prophet? Heaven forbid.

One might argue that we LDS Christians allow women to speak in the Churches. Well, we have living prophets, the Protestants have only dead ones they must adhere to. They do not have the privilege of changing or updating scriptural cultural mandates of earlier day prophets without usurping the authority of those prophets, thereby becoming prophets themselves – the very thing that they say we should not have in these days. But our living prophets today with authority of God say that Paul’s edict might have been appropriate in the cultures of his day, but now it is not suitable for God’s purposes.

There is another item of interest that should be brought up here. In less than 200 years since the Church of Jesus Christ has been restored, there is in all probability well over 100,000 pages of manuscripts, documents, Church articles, magazines, journals, and so on, written by the Church leaders, or those in authority. That would equal over 500 pages per year, and we can see that 100,000 pages is a low figure! This wealth of documents has given anti-Mormons a lot of data to find fault with. It would be impossible, given the mortal nature of man, not to find contradictions and error.

By contrast, the Bible is less than 1,500 pages covering thousands of years. That would be less than one page per year. Shall we assume that the prophets of olden times stayed mute, and had nothing to say about anything? That whatever and whenever they did say something, it was miraculously transcribed and preserved for us today? One page might read in five minutes. In 12 hours per day, we have over 262,000 minutes in a year. Nothing was said all that time but 5 minutes?

The truth is, if we had everything written down by the prophets and disciples that they taught and wrote over only 1,000 of the 4,000 years between Adam and Jesus, even at the rate of only 50 pages per day instead of 500, the Bible would be 50,000 pages in size. And there would be more errors, discrepancies, contradictions and so on to discover, many more than now.

Some have argued that today, we have 25,000 manuscript copies of the Bible from the first few centuries, and that number proves the Bible is true*. That is not logical.

Every year, several New Testament manuscripts handwritten in the original Greek format are discovered. The latest substantial find was in 2008, when 47 new manuscripts were discovered in Albania; at least 17 of them unknown to Western scholars. When comparing one manuscript to another, with the exception of the smallest fragments, no two copies agree completely throughout. There has been an estimate of 400,000 variations among all these manuscripts (from the 2nd to 15th century) which is more than there are words in the New Testament. (Wikipedia.org).

 Still, the figure of 25,000 is meaningless. If I ran off 25,000 copies of the Bible today with a printing press, they would be nearly identical, except for perhaps an ink smudge or something. Will that number prove the Bible is true? In those first few centuries, the “printing press” was a small army of monks and individuals with writing skills and a lot of time! All things considered, they did a remarkable job.

Conclusion. The reason why anti-Mormons can devote their lives to finding fault with Christ’s true Church to discover some weaknesses, sins and errors by its members and leaders is because they (1) have a desire to do so, (2) there is such a vast wealth of material to dig into perchance to find faults lying here and there.

Did Joseph Smith or other prophets ever err, sin, or do anything less than absolute perfection? Of course they did and do – the same as in olden times. Joseph Smith admitted sinning or doing wrong a number of times, and some of them are recorded in the Doctrine and Covenants. In D&C 132 we find that despite he having his exaltation sealed upon him (D&C 132:49), his wife Emma was counselled to “forgive my servant Joseph his trespasses” (D&C 132:56), and that God will require a “sacrifice … for his trespasses” (D&C 132:60). What were those trespasses? I am not Joseph’s judge, God is. And I am quite happy that they will work it out and not depend on my input. It is none of my business. Suffice it to say, that Joseph will pay for them, be forgiven, and then exalted.

Despite any errors and sins on the part of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Paul, Moses, or any other prophet of God, they were still true prophets of God nonetheless. Are there any false prophets out there in the world? Yes, of course. But we need not be afraid of their false prophecies.

Should we pray for inspiration to know whether these things that are taught by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are true or not, or shall we rely on Protestant wisdom of scholars, ancient manuscript copies of the original Bible books, and one's ability to reason?

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Isa. 55:8,9).

John 14:26  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (John 14:26, bold added).

1 THIS know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. … 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Tim. 3:1-7, bold added)

I think those three verses say quite a bit. God's ways and thoughts are not like mortals. Mortals will have a difficult, if not an impossible, time trying to reason out what God is doing and what He means, without personal inspiration.

God says He will give us the Holy Ghost to teach us all things, such as whether Joseph Smith was a prophet. So the prophet Moroni joins with John and Jesus in advocating personal revelation. But, beware. In the last days will come those who rely on scholarly learning and a consensus of the abundance of ancient copies of the original books in the Bible for their testimonies rather than direct revelation from the Holy Ghost, in essence false prophets. We needn't be afraid of them.
What is the correct way to test a latter-day Prophet? Personal revelation with research and study. The following is good advice of the Lord to Oliver Cowdery. While these verses refer to translating the Book of Mormon, it can also apply to gaining a testimony.
Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me.
8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right. (D&C 9:7,8 bold added)
Dennis Doddridge

Notes:
* I would cite an example from a Protestant writer's book claiming this argument, but the book says it is not permitted to quote from it. Nevertheless, I have heard this position before from others.
Update: 03Jun15, 18Dec16: fixed a few typos and minor changes, and added my name to the end of the article. "with research and study" added.

04Jun15: Added the D&C9 verses at the end of the article, and the lead-in to it beginning with "The following...."

Sunday, May 24, 2015

D&C 21:4 Give Heed Unto All His Words and Commandments … As He Receiveth Them


D&C21:4 Wherefore, meaning the church, thou shalt give heed unto all his words and commandments which he shall give unto you as he receiveth them, walking in all holiness before me; (bold, italics added).
D&C 28:2 But, behold, verily, verily, I say unto thee, no one shall be appointed to receive commandments and revelations in this church excepting my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., for he receiveth them even as Moses.3 And thou shalt be obedient unto the things which I shall give unto him, even as Aaron, to declare faithfully the commandments and the revelations, with power and authority unto the church. (bold added).
 Notice there is a condition which God has set upon the Prophet ­- he must first “receive” the words and commandments from God, before he should require the Saints to give heed to those words and commandments. This part of the verse is generally skipped over by many Saints, they assuming that everything that is said or written by the Prophet or any of the General Authorities is automatically inspired verbatim from God. If that were truly so, then we should expect that regardless of what prophet or authority is speaking, he or she would utter the self-same words that any other would speak, if some other prophet had been chosen by God to reveal the same revelation.
But what we find instead is a variety of personal input. Some prophets will pepper or flower their inspired thoughts more than others using different imagery and figures of speech. For example, instead of saying as God might have dictated it to their minds, “I felt inspired this morning to say to you…,” they might instead say, “On this superb and glorious morning, I was constrained by the Holy Ghost, to say to one and all….” In other words, there is a filtering process that occurs when God reveals a matter to be given through a Prophet, namely, the ego or pride system which every individual, including prophets, has. And as this has been the case in all ages, we may correctly deduct that God is not much bothered by this filtering of His inspiration.
A classic case of this is the Apostle Paul. Because of Paul’s upbringing as a Pharisee, and a zealous one too, and because of his disposition toward things that needed to be righted, such as the demise of the Law of Moses, and because he was rather dramatic in many of his expressions of the Gospel, even to the point of contradicting himself *, the Apostle Peter warned the Saints of Paul’s writings: 
2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (bold added).
* As an example, Paul’s instructions how to treat apostates, or those that have backslid from the faith:
2 Thess. 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. … 14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. (bold added).
If one is to admonish another as a brother, then one cannot withdraw totally from that person. One must have company with him in order to admonish him.
Further, regarding the treatment of these fallen:
2 Tim. 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; (bold added).
 
So, we must or must not withdraw ourselves from the fallen, we must or must not have some company with them, and in meekness or sharply rebuking them to help them to repent?
I am sure if we could sit down with Paul and if he was so disposed, he could elucidate these teachings to make them consistent. And it is so with most teachings of the prophets, but not all.
Perhaps, if Peter were given the same inspiration which Paul received, he would have conveyed that inspiration in a manner not so hard to be understood. This then illustrates that what goes into the prophet’s mind from God, likely comes out modified from what went in. But as Peter cautioned, we should not wrestle with these revelations, but rather we should try to understand the intent.
Gal. 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
One of the two, or both or neither, Peter and Paul was inspired and the other was not, causing this dissension the Bible relates.
But what if a Prophet sees a need to say something, but God is not disposed to reveal anything about it at the time? This did not stop Paul from giving his own point of view, based on his own understanding. For example:
1 Cor. 7:10  And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? (bold added).
Verses 10 and 11 are inspired from the Lord. But Paul admits that what he says as recorded in verses 12 and onwards is from himself and not from the Lord. But might there be instances where the prophet thinks he is getting something from the Lord but is not? Yes. 
Consider Moses who ruled his nation of the elect of God with ill-gotten inspiration by making himself the sole judge over them all. It took his father-in-law Jethro’s inspiration to fix it.
Exo. 18:14 And when Moses' father in law saw all that he did to the people, he said, What is this thing that thou doest to the people? why sittest thou thyself alone, and all the people stand by thee from morning unto even? 15 And Moses said unto his father in law, Because the people come unto me to enquire of God: 16 When they have a matter, they come unto me; and I judge between one and another, and I do make them know the statutes of God, and his laws. 17 And Moses' father in law said unto him, The thing that thou doest is not good. (bold added).
 
Jethro then advised Moses to divide up the work with a number of righteous judges to do the task of judging:
Exo. 18:23 If thou shalt do this thing, and God command thee so, then thou shalt be able to endure, and all this people shall also go to their place in peace. 24 So Moses hearkened to the voice of his father in law, and did all that he had said.
Note that Moses inquired of God all the day long to settle matters requiring judging. But God, with all that enquiring by Moses, never told Moses to delegate the job. Apparently, Moses never asked. It took inspiration by Jethro to correct the situation. Now, Jethro was senior to Moses, so perhaps God wanted it done this way to illustrate the line of authority. But Moses generally got his inspiration directly from God, and not through Jethro.
Consider also the Prophet Joseph Smith who felt inspired that God acquiesced in the matter of giving Martin Harris some of the Book of Mormon text, which then fell into enemy hands, whereby God rebuked Joseph for a time (see D&C 10:1,2). Then he realized that what he thought was a yes was a no. Or, in the case of Joseph who thought he was getting a revelation from God to send Oliver Cowdery and Hiram Page on a mission to Toronto, Canada, to sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon, to raise money for the Church. The mission failed and they returned without any funds. According to David Whitmer, Joseph went again to the Lord and received the answer “Some revelations are of God; some revelations are of man; and some revelations are of the devil” (An Address to All Believers in Christ, David Whitmer, p.31).
Then there are the many cases of conflict in varying accounts between Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Gospels regarding the life and ministries of Jesus.
Joseph Fielding Smith tactlessly admitted his error that man would never leave the earth to travel to the moon, etc. – it was not in the providence of God to permit it.
We will never get a man into space. This earth is man's sphere and it was never intended that he should get away from it. The moon is a superior planet to the earth and it was never intended that man should go there. You can write it down in your books that this will never happen. (address at a stake Conference  referred to in D. Michael Quinn, Elder statesman: A Biography of J. Reuben Clark (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 2002) p. 498. Source: Wikipedia: Joseph Fielding Smith.
 
To this and a few other such quotations on the subject, Joseph Fielding Smith replied to a question about his prediction:
"Well, I was wrong, wasn't I?" (Personal reminiscence of David Farnsworth provided to FAIR 21 November 2010. The press conference took place on 23 January 1970).
 Or, of President Young’s, Elders Bruce R McConkie’s (and others) erroneous teachings that Blacks of African descent would never get the right to hold the Priesthood until the end of the Millennium or after, even though logic dictates that does not make any sense. Sometimes, a too strict interpretation of Scripture can lead to gross misconstruing.
When all the other children of Adam have had the privilege of receiving the Priesthood, and of coming into the kingdom of God, and of being redeemed from the four quarters of the earth, and have received their resurrection from the dead, then it will be time enough to remove the curse from Cain and his posterity. (JD 2:143, Brigham Young).

The end of the Millennium is reserved for the resurrection of Telestials, the morning is for Celestials.
Those being resurrected with celestial bodies, whose destiny is to inherit a celestial kingdom, will come forth in the morning of the first resurrection. … They are Christ’s, the firstfruits, … (Mormon Doctrine, p. 640.) Among the Blacks (as in all races) there are many who are the elect of God, who will be exalted in the afterlife, reaping the highest glory God has to offer. Thus, they need to be resurrected in the morning of the first resurrection. That means they must have access to the Priesthood in that morning or sooner! Otherwise there would be a great bottleneck of sealings as soon as the Millennium commenced.
Furthermore, Joseph Smith explained that all Saints have their blood changed to that of the seed of Abraham, by the Holy Ghost, as part of their admittance into His Church.
This first Comforter or Holy Ghost has no other effect than pure intelligence. It is more powerful in expanding the mind, enlightening the understanding, and storing the intellect with present knowledge, of a man who is of the literal seed of Abraham, than one that is a Gentile, though it may not have half as much visible effect upon the body; for as the Holy Ghost falls upon one of the literal seed of Abraham, it is calm and serene; and his whole soul and body are only exercised by the pure spirit of intelligence; while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood, and make him actually of the seed of Abraham. That man that has none of the blood of Abraham (naturally) must have a new creation by the Holy Ghost. (DHC 3:380, bold added).
This includes Blacks as well as every other race. Thus, in the eyes of God, we are no longer German, Indian, Black, Asian, etc. – we are of one race, the seed of Adam, and in the Church the seed of Abraham as well. If God thinks that way, so should we.
Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; (bold added).
But I digress. Lesson: The Biblical prophets as well as those appointed in these latter-days are not free from error. Joseph Smith also taught, while in Liberty Jail:
… if there should be any corrections by the word of the Lord, they shall be freely transmitted, and your humble servant will approve all things whatsoever is acceptable unto God. 4. If anything should have been suggested by us, or any names mentioned, except by commandment, or thus saith the Lord, we do not consider it binding; DHC, Vol. III, p.295, 296. (bold added).
Elder Bruce R McConkie, quoting in part President Joseph Fielding Smith of the Quorum of the Twelve, taught a valuable doctrine that all Saints should consider.
With all their inspiration and greatness, prophets are yet mortal men with imperfections common to mankind in general. They have their opinions and prejudices and are left to work out their own problems without inspiration in many instances. Joseph Smith recorded that he “visited with a brother and sister from Michigan, who thought ‘a prophet is always a prophet’; but I told them that a prophet was a prophet only when he was acting as such.” (Teachings, p.278.) Thus the opinions and views even of prophets may contain error unless those opinions and views are inspired by the Spirit. Inspired statements are scripture and should be accepted as such. (D. & C. 68:4.)
Since “the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets” (1 Cor. 14:32), whatever is announced by the brethren as counsel for the Church will be the voice of inspiration. But the truth or error of any uninspired utterance of an individual will have to be judged by the standard works and the spirit of discernment and inspiration that is in those who actually enjoy the gift of the Holy Ghost.
President Joseph Fielding Smith has said: “It makes no difference what is written or what anyone has said, if what has been said is in conflict with what the Lord has revealed, we can set it aside. My words, and the teachings of any other member of the Church, high or low, if they do not square with the revelations, we need not accept them. Let us have this matter clear. We have accepted the four standard works as the measuring yardsticks, or balances, by which we measure every man’s doctrine.
“You cannot accept the books written by the authorities of the Church as standards of doctrine, only in so far as they accord with the revealed word in the standard works.
“Every man who writes is responsible, not the Church, for what he writes. If Joseph Fielding Smith writes something which is out of harmony with the revelations, then every member of the Church is duty bound to reject it. If he writes that which is in perfect harmony with the revealed word of the Lord, then it should be accepted.” (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, pp.203-204) (Mormon Doctrine, pp608, 609) 
The books, writings explanations, expositions, views, and theories of even the wisest and greatest men, either in or out of the Church, do not rank with the standard works. Even the writings, teachings, and opinions of the prophets of God are acceptable only to the extent they are in harmony with what God has revealed and what is recorded in the standard works. When the living oracles speak in the name of the Lord or as moved upon by the Holy Ghost, however, their utterances are then binding upon all who hear, and whatever is said will without any exception be found to be in harmony with the standard works. The Lord’s house is a house of order, and one truth never contradicts another. (Doctrines of salvation, vol.3, pp.203-204.) (Mormon Doctrine, p.765).
Brigham Young said the following in a discourse:
Were the former and Latter−day Saints, with their Apostles, Prophets Seers, and Revelators collected together to discuss this matter, I am led to think there would be found a great variety in their views and feelings upon this subject, without direct revelation from the Lord. It is as much my right to differ from other men, as it is theirs to differ from me, in points of doctrine and principle, when our minds cannot at once arrive at the same conclusion. I feel it sometimes very difficult indeed to word my thoughts as they exist in my own mind, which, I presume, is the grand cause of many apparent differences in sentiment which may exist among the Saints. (Brigham Young, April 17, 1853, JD 2:123).

Now, this is my thinking on this matter, so please have a grain of salt to take with it. In my view, we have God up in heaven. He wants mankind to know something. If it is really important, He might dictate it word for word, possibly adding something like “Thus saith the Lord….” He might want it canonized. On most other occasions, He is not so concerned with exactness, and will allow the prophet to reword the inspiration in his own words, concerned only that the gist or the substance of the revelation be properly related. This is why there is so much variety and diversity in the manner of delivering some inspired thought from one prophet to another.
Joseph once said he taught the Saints correct doctrine and then encouraged them to govern themselves. I think God does the same thing.
I teach them correct principles and they govern themselves.” (John Taylor quoting Joseph Smith, Millennial Star, Nov 15, 1851, p.339 .)
God has given us the basics along with some meat to digest, and He now expects us to individually make the most of it, to govern ourselves. Essentially, God wants a thinking folk in His Kingdom, humble as a child, but intelligent and prepared to actively engage themselves in the process of becoming gods. We should not, according to the scriptures, need to be commanded in all things:
D&C 58:26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.
The Church and the Prophets are here for guidance, motivation and encouragement. The Priesthood is authority given of God through the Church to organize us for entrance into His kingdom. Further, it is given to bless us, and to provide proper administration and ordinances of the Church and Kingdom, etc.
He who is commanded in all things is a slothful servant. The Prophets of the Church have access to an enormous amount of history and doctrine from which they can glean promptings and opinions about most anything. Some will err. Most will not. If it is not something that God regards as crucial to our salvation, He might let it slide. Perhaps God will add a little to what they wish to say, perhaps God has something valuable to convey. To a greater or lesser extent the inspiration comes, and then goes through the filtering process of the personality of the individual, finally emerging for us to peruse, incorporate and apply as we can. As President Joseph Fielding Smith advised, if perchance it is out of harmony with truth as revealed, we are obligated to “reject it.” If it is in “perfect harmony” with revealed truth, then it “should be accepted.”
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Sunday, May 17, 2015

A Case for Authority


Many years ago, Moses decided he wanted to speak for God. So he went to school, got a degree in religion, rented a building in Cairo, put out an advertisement in the local paper to form a congregation, and the rest is history.

Or, maybe that is not how it happened. What does the Bible teach us?

Exodus 3:13  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Exodus 28:1 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt: 

We discover that Moses did not take the honor of speaking for God onto himself, but he was called by God to do the work.

Moses felt inadequate to speak, so God did something more to help in the calling of speaking for God. Speaking to Moses, the Lord said:
Exodus 28:1  AND take thou unto thee Aaron thy brother, and his sons with him, from among the children of Israel, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office, even Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, Eleazar and Ithamar, Aaron's sons. 

Aaron and his sons were called of God through the prophet. We see that God called and chose these persons – none of them chose themselves. That is how God works. He calls individuals to do His work. We do not choose ourselves.

It is as the Lord told Joseph Smith:
D&C 132:8 Behold, mine house is a house of order, saith the Lord God, and not a house of confusion. 

Consider the prophet Jeremiah:
Jeremiah 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Jeremiah was actually ordained to his calling before he was even born – while he was still a spirit in the pre-existence! 

There are some who say that in the New Testament, God changed His ways, and that everyone who believes in Christ is called. No need to be specially called by God any more. But what does the New Testament teach us?

Hebrews 5:1 FOR every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins: …
4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.
5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, today have I begotten thee.
6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchisedec.

The New Testament is quite clear. God has not changed. Still the same God. And he says that all, and in this case, High Priests, must be called just as Aaron was. How was Aaron called? By another having authority to do so. Even Jesus submitted to this same method!

Whether a prophet or a high priest, or any other calling to officiate in God’s name, one must be called by God, or by someone like Moses with authority from God.

Thank our consistent and unchanging God, He is still the same today, and has blessed us with the predicted restitution* of all things in these latter days before the Second Coming, in the same manner and fashion as He did in the past. As He appeared to Moses, He now likewise in these last days appeared to Joseph Smith, and gave him authority to speak, teach and do all things whatsoever God wants prior to the Second Coming.

*Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.